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Postby haroun » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:57 am

BEIRUT (AFP) - The Oscar-nominated film "Persepolis", which has annoyed authorities in Iran for its critical portrayal of the Islamic revolution, has been banned in Lebanon, officials said on Wednesday, sparking an outcry.

General Wafiq Jizzini, the head of the general security department at the interior ministry, told AFP he had approved the ban after Shiite officials expressed concern that its content was offensive to Muslims and to Iran.

"The office that handles censorship matters also informed me in their report that the film attacks Islam and the Iranian regime, and this could spark tension with Iran," Jizzini said.

He added that he had not seen the film and that his decision was not final.

"I can go back on my decision, I respect freedom of expression," he said. "But given the current political crisis in Lebanon, this is not the time to add fuel to the fire."

Lebanon has been mired for more than a year in a deep political crisis pitting the Western-backed government against the Hezbollah-led opposition backed by Iran and Syria.

A government official told AFP earlier that Jizzini had decided to ban 'Persepolis' because of his supposed close ties with Hezbollah.

"It is clear that ... General Wafiq Jizzini is close to Hezbollah and he doesn't want to allow such a movie, which he believes gives an image of Iran as being worse off than it was before the shah," the official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

Jizzini said Hezbollah had not influenced his decision.

The ban sparked an outcry in many circles, with some saying it smacked of hypocrisy and showed that some within the Lebanese government were kowtowing to Iran.

Culture Minister Tareq Mitri said he saw no reason why the film should be banned and that he had urged the interior ministry to rescind its decision.

Bassam Eid, production manager at Circuit Empire, the company that was to distribute the film, blasted the ban as ridiculous and unwarranted.

"The decision is even more ridiculous when you consider that you can buy for two dollars pirated copies of the film in Hezbollah's stronghold in the southern suburbs of Beirut," Eid told AFP.

"I purchased two copies of the film from the suburbs and from the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camp and handed one over to the culture minister."

Druze leader Walid Jumblatt, a leading member of the ruling coalition, said he was stunned by "this cultural faux-pas that allows a security service to evaluate artistic and cultural works."

The film, which shows its young heroine's brushes with the authorities in the early days of the Islamic revolution in the 1980s, was screened in Iran last month but is not expected to be shown at mainstream cinemas.

A success in the United States and France, "Persepolis" has been condemned by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's government as Islamophobic and anti-Iranian.

The film, which won the Jury Prize at Cannes and was nominated for an Oscar for best animated film, is based on comic strips by Iranian-French emigre Marjane Satrapi.

Co-directed by Satrapi, it shows repression under the shah but also portrays the social crackdown, arrests and executions that followed the Islamic revolution led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 1979.

The heroine's rebellious nature and conflicts with the authorities force her to leave Iran temporarily for Austria and then for France -- this time never to return.

شمعون: حرام أن يعير احد عون أهمية لأن دواءه ليس عندنا بل في العصفورية
الجوزو: لقد سقط لبنان وسقطت حكوماته، بفضل إرهاب حزب الله
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Postby haroun » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:09 pm

Thanks to the freedom loving people and the Saniora gov this decision was reversed:

Lebanon Legalizes Anti-Iranian Animated Film

Lebanese authorities on Thursday legalized the screening of the prize-winning animated film "Persepolis", following an outcry and accusations that the banning it by the censors was aimed at pleasing Iran and Shiite clerics.
"We have given the green light for the film 'Persepolis" to be screened in cinemas across Lebanon," an official from the censorship bureau, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Agence France Presse. She did not elaborate on the remark.

On Wednesday, General Wafiq Jizzini, head of general security directorate, which handles censorship, told AFP he had decided to ban the film after Shiite officials expressed concern that its content was offensive to Muslims and to Iran.

"The office that handles censorship matters informed me in their report that the film attacks Islam and the Iranian regime, and this could spark tension with Iran," Jizzini said.

However, he stressed: "I can go back on my decision, I respect freedom of expression. But given the current political crisis in Lebanon, this is not the time to add fuel to the fire."
General Jizzini could not be reached for immediate comment on Thursday on why he had changed his mind.

His original decision to ban the film drew condemnation in many circles, with some saying it smacked of hypocrisy and showed that some within the Lebanese government were kowtowing to Iran.

Culture Minister Tareq Mitri said he saw no reason why the film should be banned and that he had urged the interior ministry to rescind its decision.

Bassam Eid, production manager with Circuit Empire, the company that was to distribute the film, blasted the ban as ridiculous and unwarranted, especially since pirated copies were widely available in Hizbullah's stronghold in the southern suburbs of Beirut.

Druze leader Walid Jumblat, a leading member of the ruling coalition, said he was stunned by "this cultural faux-pas that allows a security service to evaluate artistic and cultural works."

The film, which shows its young heroine's brushes with the authorities in the early days of the Islamic revolution in the 1980s, was screened in Iran last month but was not expected to be shown at mainstream cinemas.
A success in the United States and France, "Persepolis" has been condemned by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Government as Islamophobic and anti-Iranian.

The film, which won the Jury Prize at Cannes and was nominated for an Oscar for Best Animated film, is based on comic strips by Iranian-French immigrant Marjane Satrapi.

Co-directed by Satrapi, it shows repression under the shah but also portrays the social crackdown, arrests and executions that followed the Islamic revolution led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 1979.

The heroine's rebellious nature and conflicts with the authorities force her to leave Iran temporarily for Austria and then for France -- this time never to return.(AFP-Naharnet)

السبع يجيز عرض فيلم "برسيبوليس" بعد حظره من الأمن العام


أجاز وزير الداخليّة والبلديات حسن السبع عرض فيلم الرسوم المتحركة "برسيبوليس" بعد أن أثير لغطًا حول منع عرضه في الصالات اللبنانية من قبل الأمن العام.

وكانت المديرية العامة للأمن العام أصدرت بيانًا توضيحيًّا جاء فيه: "أثير في الآونة الأخيرة جدل متجدد حول دور المديرية العامة للأمن العام والمهام التي تضطلع بها ولا سيما لجهة عرض أفلام أجنبية في لبنان ومسألة الإجازة أو عدم الإجازة بعرضها ومنها فيلم الرسوم المتحركة "برسيبوليس" وهو فيلم من إنتاج فرنسي يعرض للمرحلة التي عاشتها إيران في ظل حكم الشاه محمد رضا بهلوي قبل سقوطه وللمرحلة التي أعقبت سقوطه وإعلان الثورة الإسلامية.

توضيحا لما حصل تعلن المديرية العامة الآتي:

- تريثت المديرية العامة للأمن العام بإتخاذ قرار إجازة عرض الفيلم في لبنان للأسباب الاتية:

1- تنفيذا للقوانين وإنطباقا على الإجراءات المعتمدة التي تقول بإحترام عواطف الجمهور وشعوره، وإجتناب إيقاظ النعرات العنصرية والدينية (الفقرة الثالثة من المادة الرابعة من قانون الرقابة الصادر عام 1947)

2- تطبيق المادة التاسعة من المرسوم الإشتراعي رقم 2873 الصادر بتاريخ 16/12/1959 حول مراقبة المطبوعات والأشرطة السينمائية.

3- لا صحة للاجتهادات والتفسيرات والمواقف المتكررة دائما حول خلفيات شخصية أو سياسية أو فئوية أو مذهبية عند إتخاذ أي قرار بحق أي فيلم أو مطبوعة لجهة السماح أو المنع بل الإلتزام بأحكام القانون الموجود إلى أن يتم إدخال تعديلات أو تغييرات عليه أو حتى إلغائه وهذه مهمة المؤسسات المعنية من حكومة ومجلس نواب.

لهذه الأسباب، وبعد قيام أصحاب العلاقة بإثارة المسألة إعلاميا طلب معالي وزير الداخلية والبلديات حسن السبع من المدير العام للأمن العام توضيحا حول هذا الأمر، وبعد إطلاعه على "التوضيح" قرر معاليه الموافقة على منح الإجازة لعرض الفيلم المذكور على الأراضي اللبنانية وفق القوانين المرعية الإجراء".

شمعون: حرام أن يعير احد عون أهمية لأن دواءه ليس عندنا بل في العصفورية
الجوزو: لقد سقط لبنان وسقطت حكوماته، بفضل إرهاب حزب الله
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Postby Charbel » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:11 pm

Freedom of speech or political motives?
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Postby StatusQuo » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:15 pm

We demand a public showing of the Danish Cartoons right in the heart of Beirut and a lift on alcohol ban in Hariri held Downtown Beirut during Ramadan. Enough Hypocrisy. That new Dutch video isn't that bad after all. The funniest reaction to the movie ban was from Terror mastermind Walid Jumblatt who did not leave a house standing in the Shouf during the war and is now talking freedom of speech! Hitler must be rolling in his grave upon hearing such competitors.
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Postby haroun » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:59 am

StatusQuo wrote:Terror mastermind Walid Jumblatt who did not leave a house standing in the Shouf during the war and is now talking freedom of speech!.

To be fair, Jumblat did leave few houses standing in Jieh during the war, all of Nabi Younes and those Ta7t Eshir belonging to some Arch aounieh. Give the guy some credit he wasn't Hitler then.

StatusQuo wrote:That new Dutch video isn't that bad after all. The funniest reaction to the movie ban was from Terror mastermind Walid Jumblatt.

SQ, get your facts straight. Were talking here about the French cartoon film not the Dutch.

StatusQuo wrote:We demand a public showing of the Danish Cartoons right in the heart of Beirut and a lift on alcohol ban in Hariri held Downtown Beirut during Ramadan.

Who are "we demanding" it from? If you have these cartoons, can you show them in your town?

When was the last time you craved kess Arak or a glass of wine and couldn't buy one in DT Beirut? Are you aware of any laws banning the use or sale of alchool in Beirut during ramadan?

شمعون: حرام أن يعير احد عون أهمية لأن دواءه ليس عندنا بل في العصفورية
الجوزو: لقد سقط لبنان وسقطت حكوماته، بفضل إرهاب حزب الله
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Postby StatusQuo » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:22 am

haroun wrote:To be fair, Jumblat did leave few houses standing in Jieh during the war, all of Nabi Younes and those Ta7t Eshir belonging to some Arch aounieh. Give the guy some credit he wasn't Hitler then.


Hitler with a Lenin Medal. Even worse in certain aspects of atrocities.

haroun wrote:SQ, get your facts straight. Were talking here about the French cartoon film not the Dutch.


I was actually talking about Fitna the new Dutch Internet movie by Dutch politician Geert Wilders which was widely criticized. Why not hold a giant screen showing Downtown Beirut? Freedom of Speech right??

haroun wrote:Who are "we demanding" it from? If you have these cartoons, can you show them in your town?


Freedom of speech baby. No limits right??? maybe they will burn me alive or they will stage a new Ghazwe in Ashrafie. Damn that Freedom of Speech is very sticky subject.

haroun wrote:When was the last time you craved kess Arak or a glass of wine and couldn't buy one in DT Beirut? Are you aware of any laws banning the use or sale of alchool in Beirut during ramadan?


Try it during Ramadan. It happened to me personally. As for craving a Kess of Arak Downtown You are correct, when Downtown I should be craving for a Saudi Pulpy Refreshing Juice Cocktail flavored mix with some exotic name like "Al Waha" or "Al Naqa" whatever! And when Downtown , I just want to get the hell of out there as soon as possible, that place is pretty spooky.
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:52 pm

Freedom of Speech is not guaranteed
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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These were the first great founders of the world
Founders of cities and of mighty states"
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Postby Abou Jamra » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:02 am

"Lebanon is a country with many different religious communities and there are still laws that ban articles that offend different communities."

Father Abdou Abu Kasm, president of Lebanon's Catholic Information Centre.

FYI The General Security Department consults with Christian and Muslim religious authorities on all books and movies dealing with sensitive subjects.

Same thing would have happended if a movie that is critical of the saudi way of life, or the palestinian way of life or the catholic way of life or the muslim way of life. Get over it, it has nothing to do with GMA or the FPM.

السيد نصرالله: أن تؤمن بالرسول أو لا تؤمن به مسألة فكرية عقائدية، أما أن تهينه وتقدمه بضورة موحشة ومهينة فهذا أمر آخر لا ينسجم مع حرية التعبير والرأي. أنظروا الى فرنسا، بالأمس عوقب موظف كبير لأنه كتب مقالا يقول فقيها أن جنودا اسرائيليين يطلقون النار على فتيات خارجات من المدرسة. هذا ليس حرية تعبير ويعاقب، أما أن يساء الى نبي مليار و400 مليون مسلم فينبري وزراء أوروبيون للدفاع

يجب أن نأخذ حذرنا من مجموعات عمل صهيونية وأميركية تسعى الى فرض الفتنة بين المسيحية والإسلام
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Postby haroun » Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:57 am

Someone like fatass who has done nothing in his life other than spread terror and fear is the last person qualified to give lessons in freedom of speech and expression.

I appreciate the quotes in your reply, but I see them irrelevant since we're talking about a Shiite head of the National Security who banned a French animated film then rescinded his decision when it became obvious that he based it on recommendations by HA Iranian fanatics.

gma and his fum, whose appeal to people is uncomprehensable, have a lot to do with this. fpm and HA terrorists eat and sleep together in the Beirut tent city, stand in the way of electing a new president and block the democratic process in the country.

شمعون: حرام أن يعير احد عون أهمية لأن دواءه ليس عندنا بل في العصفورية
الجوزو: لقد سقط لبنان وسقطت حكوماته، بفضل إرهاب حزب الله
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