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RIP General Francois AL Hajj

Postby Abou Jamra » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:47 pm

العماد عون: الشهيد كان الرقم واحد لقيادة الجيش وكان مرشحي

This is why M14 and the Lebanese Forces killed General Francois Hajj.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:04 pm

المسيرة مستمرة مهما بلغت التضحيات

May his soul rest in peace and may God be with his family, the Lebanese Army and General michel Aoun.

Allah yer7amak ya Batal le Klay3et.
Allah yer7amak ya Batal Naher al bared
Allah yer7amak ya Batal Loubnan.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:10 pm

العميد سكرية: فرانسوا الحج كان يعتبر العماد عون هو الشخص المؤهل لقيادة البلد

العميد سكرية يرد على زهرا عبر المنار: ويؤكد مجدداً اتهامه القوات اللبنانية باغتيال العميد فرانسوا الحج
سكرية: فرانسوا الحج كان دائماً يخشى وصول القوات الى السلطة


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العميد سكرية: أصحاب المشاريع التقسيمية اغتالوا العميد الحاج لمنعه من الوصول لقيادة الجيش

12/12/2007

رأى العميد الركن المتقاعد العميد وليد سكرية أن استهداف مدير العمليات في الجيش اللبناني فرانسوا الحاج هو لمنعه من الوصول إلى قيادة الجيش معتبراً أن في ذلك مصلحة للقوات اللبنانية والعدو الإسرائيلي نظراً لما يتمتع به العميد الشهيد من مواقف وطنية رافضة للتقسيم.‏

واوجز سكرية بعضاً من سيرة العميد الحاج الذي "ولد في بلدة رميش الجنوبية وتخرج من الحربية عام 1975 وفي العام 1976 مع انقسام الجيش اللبناني ذهب إلى بلدته لتفادي الدخول في الحرب الأهلية، ورفض إقامة الشريط الحدودي مع "اسرائيل" فجرى استهدافه من خلال تفجير سيارته وعاد إلى بيروت حيث خدم في الجيش اللبناني".

ومع اصطدام العماد ميشال عون مع القوات اللبنانية كان فرانسوا الحاج من الذين قاتلوا القوات اللبنانية وكبدهم خسائر كبيرة في معركة شهيرة في بلدة القليعات. بعد إعادة توحيد الجيش تسلم فوج تدخل حين كان الرئيس إميل لحود قائداً للجيش ثم شغل منصب مدرب في مديرية الأركان وكان معروف بأنه ضابط قوي ذي شخصية وأنه إذا تسلم قيادة الجيش يتسلمها بحزم وصرامة".

وعن الأسباب التي أدت إلى استهدافه قال سكرية "كان المرشح الأبرز لقيادة الجيش وهو كان يخشى القوات اللبنانية وكان دائماً يقول أنهم إذا وصلوا الى السلطة فإنهم سينكلون فينا انتقاماً ولأننا رفضنا مشروعهم التقسيمي".



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Postby Abou Jamra » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:37 pm

The Lebanese Forces and M14 Hit List.

وقد شملت لائحة "السياسة" الكويتيّة الضباط الـ 14 الّذين أشارت اليهم وعلى رأسهم العميد الركن فرنسوا الحاج مدير عمليات الجيش.
وتتابع الصحيفة المذكورة ان الاوساط الحاكمة في لبنان اكدت أنها بصدد "استكمال لائحة باسماء ضباط الجيش الذين تجاوزوا أوامر قيادتهم" في ما سمّته بالثلاثاء الأسود وادّعت "أنهم قاموا بالإعتداء على مؤيدي الحكومة والدولة في الطرقات والشوارع وحاولوا اغتيال النائب الأسبق فارس سعيد في جبيل فجرحوا تسعة من الشعب، وهذه اللائحة الاولية تتضمن 14 ضابطا ".
وحسب تسلسل اللائحة التي نسبتها صحيفة "السياسة" الكويتيّة الى قوى "14 آذار" فإن الضباط الاربعة عشر هم:
"الجنرال فرنسوا الحاج مدير العمليات في الجيش اللبناني.
العقيد صالح قيس في قيادة فرقة المغاوير وهو حليف لحزب الله.
العقيد شامل روكز في قيادة المغاوير وحليف لميشال عون.
العقيد جورج شريم من البحرية من حلفاء عون (متّهم حسب ادّعاءات الصحيفة المذكورة باصدار اوامر اطلاق النار على فارس سعيد).
العقيد جورج بطرس من اللواء الثاني وحليف لسورية وعون وكان مركزه الثلاثاء الماضي في منطقة الدورة - نهر الموت.
العقيد زهير رمضان من اللواء الثاني حليف حزب الله.
العقيد علي حرب من اللواء الثاني حليف حزب الله.
العقيد بسام الداوود من اللواء الثالث وهو شقيق فيصل الداوود المناوئ لوليد جنبلاط والمتحالف مع سوريا وعملائها في لبنان.
العقيد عبدالسلام سمحات من اللواء الرابع وهو من حركة أمل ومقره الحازميّة.
العقيد علي المولى من اللواء الرابع تابع لحزب الله وموقعه في ضبيّة نهر الموت.
المقدم زياد نصر من اللواء الرابع مؤيد لميشال عون.
المقدم داني خوند من جماعة عون.
العقيد شربل فغالي من سلاح الجو مقرب من سوريا وقد أوكلت اليه اخيرا مهمة المساندة في بيروت.
العقيد غسان سالم من الاستخبارات العسكرية ومقرب من سورية وعون


Those are the names of the 20 army generals/commanders/soldiers, who participated in blocking 14 march partisans from trying to end the strike on January 23rd in the christian areas.
They were dealing with Michel Aoun, Sleiman Franjiyye, and Hezballa.

1- “Al Nakib” Mohammad Al Amin, participated in targetting Ex MP Fares Soueid.
2- “Al Dabet” Elie Akel, part of the Jbeil “doubbat” group.
3- “Al Moukaddam” Salim Feghali who sent him Emil Lahoud to protect Aoun’s house in Rabye and was running the opperation from there on the 23rd.
4- “Al Moukaddam” Zakhia Khoury who was working with FPMers on the ground in the christian areas.
5- “Al aakid” Jean Ahwaje, Commander of the 2nd brigade.
6- “Al aakid” Maurice Haddad in “jihaz al amn al aaskari”.
7- “Al moukaddam” Jihad Tarabay from military intelligence bureau.
8- “Al 3imad” Arman Tabchi
9- “Al aamid” Jermanos, commander of the first brigade, cooporating with hezballa due to his presence on the lebanese syrian border, also part of the weapons smuggling to HA from syria.
10- “Al aamid” Francois Alhaj
11- “Al moukaddam” Dani Khawand
12- “Al aakid” Georges Chraym, ordered the shooting on Fares Soueid.
13- “Al aakid” Saleh Kays hezballa ally
14- “Al aakid” Chamel Roukoz Aoun ally
15- “Al aakid” Georges Boutros Aoun ally
16- “Al aakid” Zouheir Ramadan hezballa ally
17- “Al aakid” Ali Hareb hezballa ally
18- “Al aakid” Bassam Daoud
19- “Al aakid” Abdel Salam Samhat
20- “Al aakid” Ali Al Mawla
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Postby haroun » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:29 pm

A note about Sukariyye who attacked the LF and your source...

To refresh everyone’s memories ..

This scumbag was the one who shot at his own comrades in Iqlim el Kharoub in the mid 80s after the LF had liberated most of it and was waiting for the army to come and take over …

7allana ba2a nokhlass min hal zbele.

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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:57 am

With people flip flopping back and forth in terms of allegiances, thoughts and assumptions like that AJ don't really carry much weight, because anyone can whip up a few words and connect dots from all over the place to come to a pre-conceived conclusion.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:33 am

Nothing is pre conceived about this conclusion it's fact. And it's scarring the shit out of M14 who surprisingly enough have not yet blamed Syria.

RIP General Francois.

Haroun how long did it remain liberated for??? That prick jaajaa took all our boys from the chouf and put them on the front lines in other areas. After narrow victories in the Chouf he left the area exposed. Cant the Northerns (bsharaneye) defend their own areas? why did jaajaa sacrifice our boys?

I blame the LF for the Chouf massacres. they acted like barbarians then withdrew. The palestinians and sunnis and druze retaliated by acting a like wise manner.
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Postby haroun » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:02 am

Neverless they tried and they claimed the villages that was taken from them by force even for a short time.

The army was coming to give them support then this guy sikkarieh and his rebels shot at them and prevented them from doing their duty.

Geagea, deserves our salut for trying and succeding given the limited resources he has.

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Postby Abou Jamra » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:25 am

haroun wrote:Geagea, deserves our salut for trying and succeding given the limited resources he has.


WTF :shock: :shock:

the LF malitia was armed and over stocked by the Isralies. The Leb army to this very day is still using the equipment it confiscated from the LF malitia. How do you measure success man? How did the LF succeed in the chouf. ( it had the potential and was very capable, what happened?

My appologies i not only blame the LF for the Chouf loss but also Bkirki. They were responsible actually far more responsible.

Jaajaa deserves no salut what so ever. fa sa yazhabou ela mazbalat al tareekh. The LF martyrs are the ones who deserve to be saluted for their efforts against the palestinians not their blood thirsty leader who asked them to withdraw from the chouf. Bkirki ought to be torched after promising the people of Iklim al kharoub that all was well and a cease fire had been agreed to.
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:38 pm

That's not true. Israeli weapons standards for example are not AK-47s, but M-16s. Higher end weapons on the soldier scale like this are not used in the Lebanese Army. The army's armory consists of Syrian ex-soviet stockpiles and used US gear.

After the Lebanese war ended, the majority of LF weapons were actually sold to the Balkans during the latter's war in the mid 90s by a man named Mike Nassar (3rd biggest founding shareholder in Solidere) who made millions in profit out of it as a result and who was then assassinated in 2002.
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Postby danyhr » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:25 am

you know what AJ, your use of language in trying to get yor point across is appalling. How can you pretend to stand behind Aoun as the "christian" leader and refer to the batrak and the institution in this manner?

I don't care who follows who on this forum, but when you disrespect Bkirki or any other person/religion in such a way, it says a lot more about you.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:55 am

Prince Cadmus II wrote:That's not true. Israeli weapons standards for example are not AK-47s, but M-16s. Higher end weapons on the soldier scale like this are not used in the Lebanese Army. The army's armory consists of Syrian ex-soviet stockpiles and used US gear. .


What’s not true?

Can you deny that the Israeli army did not supply the LF? Of course not because their is proof.

The LF used both M16s and AK 47s. M16s from US and Israel and other western arms dealers and the AK47’s were supplied in the early 80’ by the Russians. The AK 47 AKM was from Russia the AK47 Tabuk from Iraq. Again you cant deny this because there is proof.

The Lebanese army does use both assult rifles the M16 and the AK47. I really don’t know why I am bothering with this reply. Seriously.

Also it wasn’t until recently that the US started supplying the Lebanese army with arms. Yes it did train some Generals at US military academies, it financed it previously but the budget allocated I think was US$80 million compared to he billions and billions of dollars that went to assist the IDF.

I will try to find a picture I took at te army check point in Naa3meh. NO kidding they were wearing LF uniforms (without the delta of course) and some jeeps still bare the markings of the delta cross although now faded and the delta logo (also faded) on their doors. I could go on forever about the confiscated LF arms which the Leb army is now using but its useless as everybody knows this I don’t know how you don’t.

After the Lebanese war ended, the majority of LF weapons were actually sold to the Balkans during the latter's war in the mid 90s by a man named Mike Nassar (3rd biggest founding shareholder in Solidere) who made millions in profit out of it as a result and who was then assassinated in 2002



Wrong. Majority of heavy armory went to the Leb army, much of it was also buried. Last year their were reports that containers of LF arms had been sunk in the medditaranean sea of the Halat shores. Yes arms were sold on the black market and the LF made a fortune estimated at $2 billion.


This is very brief if you want more details let me know.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:41 am

danyhr wrote:you know what AJ, your use of language in trying to get yor point across is appalling. How can you pretend to stand behind Aoun as the "christian" leader and refer to the batrak and the institution in this manner?

I don't care who follows who on this forum, but when you disrespect Bkirki or any other person/religion in such a way, it says a lot more about you.


Sorry if I offended anybody.

Lets hope Bkirki has the same courtesy and apologises to us for the way it had treated and traded us.

You what’s most disappointing here? It's the double standards on this forum. Haroun calls GMA and Sayed HN all sorts of names nobody screams and shouts and calls hypocrisy or heresy. You all have a little giggle about it. But God forbid we mention jaajaa and sfeir we are crucified.

Well I say NO.

Bkirki has failed us and i am free to express myself in any which way i like. I was referring to Batrak Kfreish in my post and the role Bkirki played in our defeat and migration from the Chouf.

Jumblat has appologised to the christians, Bkirki appologised to the druze. Now bkirki should appologies to us.

This dany comes more from frustration rather than characher ;-)
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Postby haroun » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:58 am

Abou Jamra wrote:
What’s not true?

Can you deny that the Israeli army did not supply the LF? Of course not because their is proof.

Also it wasn’t until recently that the US started supplying the Lebanese army with arms. Yes it did train some Generals at US military academies, it financed it previously but the budget allocated I think was US$80 million compared to he billions and billions of dollars that went to assist the IDF.

I will try to find a picture I took at te army check point in Naa3meh. NO kidding they were wearing LF uniforms (without the delta of course) and some jeeps still bare the markings of the delta cross although now faded and the delta logo (also faded) on their doors. I could go on forever about the confiscated LF arms which the Leb army is now using but its useless as everybody knows this I don’t know how you don’t.

Wrong. Majority of heavy armory went to the Leb army, much of it was also buried. Last year their were reports that containers of LF arms had been sunk in the medditaranean sea of the Halat shores. Yes arms were sold on the black market and the LF made a fortune estimated at $2 billion.


Aj,

No one ever denied the LF bought their weapons from Israel, I don't see the problem. The lf was after the best weapons forr the money and they found it.

There is only one difference between weapons we got from Israel and those our adversaries got from Syria, Libya, Iraq and Iran they got theirs for free. The purpose of their weapons was to kill us. I don't see the problem with Israel being a source for weapons the LF needed for self defense.

Man be thankful for the US for supplying you army with what they need. The US has no obligations to do anything for them. Why do you do a comparaison between the IDF and the LA, for the US supplying the LA is huge risk.

As you are suggesting the LF heavy armory went to the Leb army, that is a good thing the question when the terrorists heavy armory and missiles will find its way to the same army? stop bsssing about money? tayyar is the wrong source for this info.

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Postby Abou Jamra » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:18 am

Aj,

No one ever denied the LF bought their weapons from Israel, I don't see the problem. The lf was after the best weapons forr the money and they found it.



Money??? The LF bought these weapons BS wlak million BS. the weapons were given to the LF to fight the palestinian threat by the Israeli's and not particularly for Lebanons interest but for Israel's. NO way were they charged. If so Haroun, please tell me where the LF got the money from?



There is only one difference between weapons we got from Israel and those our adversaries got from Syria, Libya, Iraq and Iran they got theirs for free. The purpose of their weapons was to kill us. I don't see the problem with Israel being a source for weapons the LF needed for self defense.


Did Israel not supply the Druze with weapons? Did the LF malitia not use it's weapons against the Lebanese army? Mind you i dont see the rpoblem either and never in my post did i sight that it was a problem. I am merely presenting cadmus with fact.


Man be thankful for the US for supplying you army with what they need. The US has no obligations to do anything for them. Why do you do a comparaison between the IDF and the LA, for the US supplying the LA is huge risk.


If it has no obligation then dont let it meddle in our affairs. Does it have an obligation there?

As you are suggesting the LF heavy armory went to the Leb army, that is a good thing the question when the terrorists heavy armory will find its way to the same army? stop bsssing about money? tayyar is the wrong source for this info

The weapons of the resistance will remain as long as Israel occupies our land and as long as it is considered a threat. Their is a way to that the weapons of the resistance will find their way into the Leb army. MOU.

No body is BS where did the LF money go some to bkirki the rest??? That was a major point of disagreement with the "Koudama" Fouad abou Nader, pussy ashkar and co and jaajaa's LF. They want to know where the money went.
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