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Dr Nassif Azzi's New book launch

Postby Abou Jamra » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:27 pm

Tuesday, 4th March 2008 at 5:00pm


دعوة - حفل توقيع كتاب الدكتور ناصيف قزي



في اطار المهرجان اللبناني للكتاب- السنة السابعة والعشرون 2008
الذي تقيمه الحركة الثقافية- انطلياس
يتشرف الدكتور ناصيف قزي بدعوتكم لحضور حفل توقيع كتابه
عظة الاثنين
مقالة في السياسة
الزمان: الثلاثاء 4 آذار 2008 من الساعة الخامسة حتى التاسعة مساء
المكان: الحركة الثقافية انطلياس- دير مار الياس، منصة الحركة



I hereby invite you to the signing and launch of my new book

Monday sermons

"Writings on politics"

To be held on Tuesday, March 4 from 5pm until 9 pm

In the Great Hall of Mar Elias Monastery Antelias.

The event will be held during the 27th Lebanese Festival of the Book (1-16 March) sponsored by the Cultural Movement at Antelias

The book, was introduced by His Excellency GENERAL MICHEL AOUN, it is a proponent of an ethical nation, in a world that has lost its meaning.

I ask of you my friends to convey this invitation to all those who are fighting for a free lebanon, and an autonomous Lebanon. A Lebanon crowned by human values ... Those that reflect our history.

Sincerely

Nassif azzi.


Looking forward to reading it. The AJCC should send out an invitation to Dr Nassif Azzi and invite him to Australia and help promote his book.
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Postby haroun » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:04 pm

Congratulation to Dr. Nassif on his new book. It may have come in due time to shore up a dwindling support for the Syrio/Iranian spokesman. I sincerely wish him good luck.

But frankly, I am not looking forward for more sermons in politics by a aouni monk.

شمعون: حرام أن يعير احد عون أهمية لأن دواءه ليس عندنا بل في العصفورية
الجوزو: لقد سقط لبنان وسقطت حكوماته، بفضل إرهاب حزب الله
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:21 am

The world has not lost its meaning. It is the people who are lost and have lost meaning for the world that always was, still is and always will be whatever it was always intended to be.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Sun May 04, 2008 4:57 am

Dr Nassif Azzi will be in Sydney next week to promote his book عظة الاثنين.

Dates are yet to be confirmed...

However the UALM will be hosting him at the Westella and the AJCC at the AJCC club house in Belfield.

I will update soon.
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Postby haroun » Tue May 06, 2008 1:19 am

He probably be spending more money promoting his book than he'll ever make from it! I can't believe this "seif el baher" of yours and malek el leymoun needs continuous publicity and promotions around the globe to be attractive.

شمعون: حرام أن يعير احد عون أهمية لأن دواءه ليس عندنا بل في العصفورية
الجوزو: لقد سقط لبنان وسقطت حكوماته، بفضل إرهاب حزب الله
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Postby Abou Jamra » Tue May 06, 2008 4:04 am

haroun wrote:He probably be spending more money promoting his book than he'll ever make from it! I can't believe this "seif el baher" of yours and malek el leymoun needs continuous publicity and promotions around the globe to be attractive.



Dr Nassif was invited by the UALM United Australian Lebanese Movement (AKA FPM Australia) whose press secretary is your old friend Mr Samir Azzi.

I don’t see anything wrong with an author promoting his book, and we as a community should rally behind and support Dr Nassif Azzi.


What I would like to see the AJCC do….

1)Send out a letter to all Jieh households inviting them to the signing of the book at the AJCC club house followed by a cocktail.

2)Host a Q&A session with Dr Nassif., discussing Jieh matters and concerns. The AJCC should capitalise on this. Dr Nassif’s vision is extraordinary and his knowledge is remarkable.

النبي يتكرم في كل مكان في العالم إلى في بلدته... يا عيب الشوم يا هارون

pity the village.
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Tue May 06, 2008 3:25 pm

The AJCC does not intervene in these sorts of matters. To send a letter out for this kind of event would cost at least over $450 in printing and mailing costs.

Since he is not on the program of AJCC related events, Nassif is more than welcome to use the hall as he pleases, as a resident of the town and relative, although the content of its use is in by no means the responsibility or endorsement of the AJCC itself.

The AJCC by principle cannot contribute to this as it does not involve itself in any political matters or matters that are not on its original agenda.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Tue May 06, 2008 4:33 pm

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The AJCC does not intervene in these sorts of matters. To send a letter out for this kind of event would cost at least over $450 in printing and mailing costs.


I am sure the AJCC could find a way to fund the night. If printing and mailing costs exceed its budget then I am sure emailing could be used as an alternative. And what exactly are “these sort of matters”?

Since he is not on the program of AJCC related events, Nassif is more than welcome to use the hall as he pleases, as a resident of the town and relative, although the content of its use is in by no means the responsibility or endorsement of the AJCC itself.


What I made was a mere recommendation. I am all too well aware that it is not the responsibility of the AJCC but I truly believe that it is the right things to do and I believe it will be done. Just as events can be postponed and cancelled i am sure new ones can be added.

The AJCC by principle cannot contribute to this as it does not involve itself in any political matters or matters that are not on its original agenda.


Wrong… the AJCC by principle has to contribute to this. The AJCC should acknowledge successful individuals regardless of which field they excel in and regardless of their political affiliation. Despite the content of Dr Nassif’s book nobody has the intention of politicising this event. So please let’s not go on that path use it as an excuse and divert attention away from this thread.

Is rewarding and acknowledging individuals who have contributed much to the village not part of its agenda then what is?

If the AJCC does not which to promote Dr Nassif's book, then the least it can do is invite him to (as i mentioned previously) to a Q&A session or an open forum in which village affairs can be discussed and his opinion considered.

Please discuss this at the next meeting and let us know what the AJCC has decided to do.

thanks in advance.
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Tue May 06, 2008 5:36 pm

AJ, contrary to popular perception, this exact matter was brought up in a meeting long before anybody even knew Nassif was coming to Australia, and it was discussed and not agreed upon by any of the board members due to concerns that the AJCC may be endorsing matters not pertinent to its Australian program. Its program is to engage the community again especially the youth and not so much the older people. The youth especially the younger kids to get them to know each other and organising fun activities and events for them. I don't believe any one of them know who Nassif is or even care what he looks like, and I don't think they would really appreciate it either, it's the least of their concern. The main aim for this year is to get all the youth back from a few years where there has been a lack of get togethers.

I personally think the committee has done really well in achieving this goal so far and there are still a few more things to get started like free Arabic lessons for all beginners of Arabic.

If Nassif wishes to speak about his political purpose or philosophy (I don't even know the nature of his book regardless), he is free to do so and nobody is stopping him, the hall is open with all arms, but it will not be endorsed by the AJCC and frankly, there is simply no money to throw this kind of banquet at a time of the UALM's choosing when the AJCC had no say in its timing.

The hall is in a deep funding problem and every dollar needs to be put into that place before it falls apart. The floorboards have to be ripped out and a new air conditioning system and everything is going to be costing tens of thousands of dollars if done properly. This is absolutely the worst time to be inviting guests into the hall but nonetheless the doors will not be closed.

This is by no means an attack at all against any of this, I hope to make it to the book launch if I can, and with all the news by word of mouth, most people will know of it anyway so there should be no problem. There is no need to advertise for Nassif because he is already known to be a well educated doctor in philosophy so no effort really needs to be done to highlight this via useless expenses on the part of the AJCC.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Wed May 07, 2008 3:27 am

This is all nice, sweet and cute. But your missing my point man....
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Wed May 07, 2008 4:44 am

Yes it is all nice, sweet and cute, and unfortunately for you it actually does address your point.

Nassif is welcome here, we did not invite him, it was the UALM's invitation for him to come to Australia, therefore it had nothing to do with the AJCC. Therefore his trip to Australia does have something political about it as well as philosophical (doctrine of the double-effect) since it was the FPM's Australia office that brought him out here.

Since his Australia visit is not an AJCC sponsored event, it by no means should be forged into one. The community here lives whether Lebanon exists or not and is separated from Lebanon affairs on all fronts except for the Church issues. There shouldn't be a need to forge a relationship and obligation to adhere to Lebanon issues when the principles of the AJCC are pretty much made clear.

The AJCC contributes to helping out in any way possible to rebuild the two Churches, whether that is by fundraising, or by helping out in any other way to committees responsible for it. It does not intervene or oblige itself with any other Lebanon issues since it does not wish to be divisive by supporting a politician philosopher such as Nassif who may just be supporting one side and not the other when it is clear the Jieh people are split between the two.

The AJCC is the club of all the Jieh people and contributes with events that will embody all the people regardless of their profession of political faith. Therefore it will not be endorsing events like this and it is entirely up to the disposal of those who are interested in it only.

All Jieh people I have spoken with agree with this whether they are Aounists or Non-Aounists and they agree that the committee should not be involved in matters or even to reduce its minor involvement in Lebanon affairs and to concentrate on rebuilding a club hall that will benefit the people here. So I'm confident that very few people will voice an opinion against this. There is not one person who has disagreed so far until this forum thread.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Wed May 07, 2008 7:52 am

Nassif is welcome here, we did not invite him, it was the UALM's invitation for him to come to Australia, therefore it had nothing to do with the AJCC. Therefore his trip to Australia does have something political about it as well as philosophical (doctrine of the double-effect) since it was the FPM's Australia office that brought him out here.


Whilst his attendance at the UALM function serves a political purpose, that doesn’t necessarily mean that if that AJCC invites him (and I believe it will) to the club house it also promoting that political philosophy. Again please let us not politicise this event. Nobody has the intention of doing so. The FPM brought him here… great! Why not capitalise on his presence here and invite him to attend the AJCC as a guest speaker?

Since his Australia visit is not an AJCC sponsored event, it by no means should be forged into one. The community here lives whether Lebanon exists or not and is separated from Lebanon affairs on all fronts except for the Church issues.


Cool, but I can almost assure you that Dr nassif azzi knows more about ‘church issues” than the AJCC president, vice president, treasurer, youth coordinator, secretary etc… all put together. Exploit that… use it to your advantage, you guys might learn things you didn’t know…

Separated from Lebanon affairs on all fronts


So the AJCC doesn’t care about land sales? The environment? The council elections? The school? The cemetery? Financial assistance to those who are unable to purchase medicine or cover tuition costs to educate their children. YOU guys don’t care about any of these humanitarian things? All you care about is building two churches?

Well you know what? I will save you guys a whole lot of trouble and tell you that if you don’t address the issues I mentioned you guys only need to raise money for the windows of the church. You wont be needing seating or an alter, because if you fail to address the issues I have listed, in due time that church will be a mosque where only carpet is required.

It does not wish to be divisive by supporting a politician philosopher such as Nassif who may just be supporting one side and not the other when it is clear the Jieh people are split between the two
.

I told you in my previous post, do not politicise this event. Why is the AJCC politicising this event? As that it’s excuse?

The AJCC is the club of all the Jieh people and contributes with events that will embody all the people regardless of their profession of political faith.


Dude didn’t you just contradict what you said earlier?


Forget it….

I am not discussing this anymore.

I believe the AJCC should invite to Dr Nassif Azzi to the AJCC club house.

He will not be attending as a political representative; neither will he be representing a political party. I am sure Dr Nassif wont mind being introduced by George”Abou Chaoki” Azzi as simply Nassif Azzi… A man of his status deserves to be acknowledged and his opinion heard.

Don’t give me this BS about the AJCC not been able to fund it. It wont cost more than a $100 or $200 you guys can even sell the orange and apple juice as well the petitefoore.

Now can I get an official response please.

Will the AJCC be hosting Dr Nassif Azzi at the club house? If not, is it because he is affiliated to a certain political party that doesn’t necessarily reflect the views of the AJCC board?

Forget the fact that it was UALM that invited him here. It’s a silly argument. Take into consideration what he has done for the village, seek his intellectual wisdom, share his vision that is a cross between idealism as well as realism.

You cannot limit your events to just Kids movie nights and present that as your grand Australian program, and everything else interferes with it.
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Postby Prince Cadmus II » Wed May 07, 2008 11:31 am

No I did not contradict what I said earlier. He is welcome to come if he wishes to do so to use the hall for whatever purpose he likes. He will not be brutally beaten or have tires burned in his face or prevented from entering the hall.

AJ you clearly have opted to take this extremely out of hand and distant from reality. The AJCC hall will be open at all times to accommodate Nassif if he wishes to hold a book launch there. Board members do not affiliate themselves with any political party whilst conducting matters pertaining to the AJCC and will NOT be forced into being viewed as anti-Aoun simply because they will not be throwing a red carpet banquet for Nassif.

It is you who has just politicised this by even assuming that the reason behind this is somehow some weird notion that the board members are anti-Aoun and therefore Nassif will not be officially part of the AJCC program as a result.

That has got to be the most pathetic idea I have come across on this forum so far, as if to say that an Ouweti philosopher somehow would be part of the program if he or she were to come to Australia for their book launch.

The most important part of this is that Lebanon politics and land issues and things like this have consumed a whole deal of AJCC effort while absolutely forgetting about the greater community we have here. The program for this year was to focus on the community LIVING HERE, yes, AUSTRALIA. It does not mean Lebanon means nothing, but the focus has shifted to Sydney where the money is coming from. You cannot keep neglecting the community here for issues overseas. This was discussed in great detail at the last board elections and the majority of people agreed that more focus should be made on the Australian community here.

If you have urgent matters you wish to discuss, you can come to the next board meeting and point it out there where there will be a vote, a democratic vote on each issue that is raised.

I have already stated that this has been dealt with in an adequate matter and already voted on and decided, and so simply playing the victim here and having a winge over this issue and the fact that the AJCC is not wishing to play sides here is really something beyond me and many others.

P.S. Just to reiterate to those who don't know the title of the book, it is "Writings on politics" . Now if that means anything to any educated person out there, it means Nassif is here to apologise for Aounist politics, him being an active party member. And I'm pretty sure if he does wish to use the hall, he will be wanting to sell his book and he is more than welcome to do that, again but not as part of the AJCC program for 2008.

Thankyou very much but this is the end of this discussion.
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This Book launch has been sponsored by Iran

Postby charbel Azzi » Wed May 07, 2008 12:38 pm

Maybe you can get Iran to fund the mail out.
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Postby Abou Jamra » Wed May 07, 2008 2:11 pm

ok cadmus i get your point but i still dont think you got mine. You need to distinguish between Nassif azzi the person, Nassif the academic, Nassif the visionary who contributed much to the village and Dr Nassif azzi the political activist.

You guys voted on it. cool. i still believe Dr Nassifs political affiliation did to an extent effect the out come of the vote and i am sure very few of those who voted know who Dr Nassif is and what Dr Nassif stands for.

Regardless the AJCC has a program and we wont let nothing interfer with it.

anyway i will discuss this "program" later and at length. Too much happening on OTV tonight sleiman beik frangieh is guest with maguy farah on OTV and our boys are being shot at by tayyar Moustakbal thugs.

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Maybe you can get Iran to fund the mail out.


Yes i will email Ahmadenijad and ask him to also fund the 2 churches. Will the AJCC accept an Iranian donation?
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